Talk:Cincinnati chili
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Axe to Grind
[edit]Many parts of this seems like they were written by someone with an axe to grind about the use of the word "chili". The picture is wrong, by including a photo of a "way", which is just a recipe _using_ Cincinnati chili.
This whole controversy about "misnomer" and whatnot is subjective. Purists about the word won't tell you they use dried beef in what they'd consider chili, even though it's the original application of chili con carne. Daleyjem (talk) 13:35, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- There is a photo of the sauce itself, but I kind of feel like most readers are expecting a photo of a way, which is how cincinnati chili is most commonly eaten. Not sure what axe to grind you mean, maybe you could expand? People are discussing the misnomer in multiple reliable sources, so we cover that in the article. Valereee (talk) 15:17, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Since you mention sources... For instance, the first linked source page in the Misnomer section is taken out of context, because the sentence from the source explicitly mentions that a 5-way "bears no resemblance" to a southwestern-style bowl of red; Not the chili in its solo state. Also, what is southwestern red a "style" of, if it's not the original chili con carne itself?
- It seems silly to me to call something a "misnomer" just because one can link to an op-ed stating that it's typically eaten in this fashion or that. It seems a misnomer in itself to use the word misnomer here.
- Ground beef cooked in a chili powder sauce is the basis of most chili recipes, and is no different in Cincinnati chili. I would argue that emphasis on "ways" is where a misassociation typically arises, and this wiki page seems to indicate that. Daleyjem (talk) 05:12, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry... not the first source. I meant this "bears no resemblance" source. Daleyjem (talk) 05:22, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not following...it's called chili, but the dish bears no resemblance to chili con carne, which is what people typically expect since it's called chili, so "chili" is a misnomer. Not sure what you mean by emphasis on "ways" is where a misassociation typically arises. Valereee (talk) 14:06, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
- I don't know how much more to clarify. The sourced article says that a 5-way bears no resemblance to chili con carne. Cincinnati chili is not a 5-way. Cincinnati chili is ground meat in a sauce containing chili powder, and other spices. Daleyjem (talk) 20:49, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not following...it's called chili, but the dish bears no resemblance to chili con carne, which is what people typically expect since it's called chili, so "chili" is a misnomer. Not sure what you mean by emphasis on "ways" is where a misassociation typically arises. Valereee (talk) 14:06, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
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